Welcome to r/telemark Rene. But the worst part about the Meidjo is that a single binding mount requires 10 holes, including the 2 for the heel plate. I love the way the Meidjo 2.0 skis. Do you still have to pull skis off and flick the lever? With my Lynx I can just flick it with my pole for changing modes, which works great when your skiing on fat Voile skis with fish scales. Castlegar BC, Craig – I was struck by your comment: “Otherwise, get a leash with a small gauge wire loop “calibrated” to break in an avalanche.” Does anyone make such a leash, or have you made one yourself? There is an adjustable steel plate that determines where the leaf-spring bends upward. Loyal 22D customers will appreciate the use of their classic Hammerhead 6-hole mounting pattern. In this age of lighter, stronger and more versatile AT setups the TTN breathes new life into the sport we all love. I tried all three positions and the difference was subtle at best. Here is what I found: 1. Meidjo has been prone to above-average icing problems because it had lots of cavities and metal for snow to collect in and get packed into ice. The step in for the Lynx is slightly simpler than the Meidjo to cock. Fuhgetaboutit! Mounting: 22D 6-hole, Hello, this reply is for Seth. Estimated weight (per/binding): Small – 17 oz. In theory better plastic will overcome that trouble. I have a full on AT setup that is great for it’s intended purpose. Whether that’s in the final production version will depend on patent issues. It is held in place with the same slick pin used to adjust cable pivot location on the Axl or Vice. Lynx When? If and when 22D has the inspiration to develop that it may be incorporated. Great one of our long time buddy Alex LeBlanc dicing up some morning freshies. From $0.10. When the spring tension is applied to the boot at the second heel, effectively in the middle of the sole, the resulting power transfer feels smoother because the lever arm is shorter with less pressure applied at the tip. So far, I’ve broken all the bindings I had, G3, BD, bulldog, except HammerHead and Outlow. Taylor Johnson on the early morning hunt. I'm also on the M 3.0s - second day on them today (on NTNs) in general. Quick View. Of course, the low-tech toe also delivers the most efficient ski touring possible; there is no resistance to lifting your heel and you only lift the boot, not the boot and binding hardware like with a plate or 75mm telemark touring binding. r/telemark. It is possible that Lynx could be more ‘active.’ However, Meidjo or Outlaw could be noticeably more active too. Good to film it for later. is the second spring worth it? Meidjo binding received the precious Editor's Choice of Backcountry Magazine in 2017 and won the Gold Winner Award at ISPO in 2015. MEIDJO 2.1 + SKI-BRAKES 2.1 : when ordering a Meidjo 2.1 binding and for technical reasons, please send us an email to with the reference of your order and the size of ski-brake 2.1 you want: 85, 95, 105, 120 or 130mm. share. Dostie says quite possibly best tech toe pin system on any binding (tele or AT)! For the average skier the mechanics of how the Lynx achieves the magic tension that is possible only with an NTN connection is less of a concern than the sensation it delivers. 2 damage in the field. In NE we have a lot of rolling terrain that is better suited to a XCD setup. The Meidjo 2.1 Telemark Tech Binding by The M-Equipment Co is a game changer binding for any telemark skier looking to move light and fast in the mountains. The new Meidjo has a safety release that is independent of the turning tension, but also depends on the spring tension of pins clamping the toe of the boot via a low tech toe unit. As you would hope, preload and three levels of binding activity are easily adjustable. So is that too much difference? Thank you Quadzilla for your generous contribution (>$100) in support of this site. Something like the Outlaw X has and even more if possible, but not like the first version of the Outlaw cause it did’nt had much more travel than a Rotefella Freeride. (500g) 4 comments. My only beef with the Lynx is the claw grabs sometimes when touring in deep snow and it’s a bit too active/stiff. Yes, there is a soft spring and a hard spring with 3.0. To which I can say it’s on par with the fantastic performance of Meidjo or Outlaw. And welcome to Reddit! BCM: So do you think NTN systems and tech systems are the future of what people will be telemarking on? Hope this helps Also, Not sure if you can compare the linx to the outlaw or Axl in terms of power…. The Lynx & Meidjo bindings are great, but can their weight & reliability be brought closer in line with, say, a Dynafit Superlight? By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Sheesh!!) Good that I had a second set, away in the Alps One thing is clear after checking out 22 Design’s Lynx. We sent the Telemark Gear Guru Craig Dostie to check out and get the scoop on the new 22 Designs LYNX. I have some time - There’s no light boots available yet so it’s not worth upgrading from Outlaw X & Axl - ski depending. I fixed it in the field with 2 part epoxy putty & got going again quick. The Meidjo 2.1 also has step-in, ski brakes, ski crampons, lateral release and optional heel retention with the Alpine Heel Unit. Paul- the Scarpa F1 will not work with this binding as it does not have the NTN heel, aka duckbutt. I don’t think there’s an easier binding to get in to; arguably as easy as an alpine binding, but with less heel pressure required to latch in. You won't want to miss this! Die Ordergebühren an deutschen Börsenplätzen betragen 0,14 % vom jeweiligen Ordervolumen, mindestens jedoch 5,80 Euro. Telemark-Pyrenees lists the Lynx as slightly more expensive than the Meidjo so those in Yurp don't even have the relative expense as an argument point, but I'm sure that this is anomaly. Furthermore, it does not have the requisite bellows. Created Mar 20, 2011. Spring conditions with sticky snow I also had major problems with boot jack and snow packing into the binding. My wife and I have used them for years on our touring set up. Anyone able to comment on the mounting position (fore/aft) as compared to the outlaw x? Touring performance was not tested, but there is little doubt Lynx will be as efficient as any other 2-pin binding weighing a pound per foot (480g). For simple mode shifting, Outlaw takes the cake, but Lynx is only slightly more fiddly, requiring you to step out of the toe to retract the claw, then re-connect the toe pins. Howdy Rene, how do you do stick the Meijio 3 in tour mode? For all things telemark ski-related. The pins closed with a reassuring snap – stronger than a Dynafit but not quite as forceful as a G3 toe. Of the three, Lynx engaged the fastest, while Outlaw had the most power. But on the current information it would appear to be fair to say the Lynx and Meidjo will weigh near enough the same which is roughly 500g per binding. I'm making deeper turns than ever before with the single spring. The second heel claw is positioned on the rear sheet with a two-position cam on the sides that holds the claw upright for turns, or tipped back for touring so it can’t grab the duckbutt or get in the way of the boot sitting flat. With the Lynx tele-résistänçe, the tension that adds control to the rear ski, comes from the combination of steel compression coil springs (classic 22 DNA), and two strips of composite fiberglass acting as a leaf-spring. I have telemarked for 19 years now on 5 bindings. Outlow I use 2 seasons, I not used VOILE – so, no opinion. The meidjo and lynx are the closest I’ve ever felt to the old duckbill with an NTN boot and could lead to a bit of a resurgence for tele. Got used to stepping in with ski brakes (the system works). 3. Most important that sets them apart is release function is a knee saver, it works. Mammoth shoot out: Outlaw VS Meidjo By Dostie; 5 mins to read Mammoth Mountain. For comparison the Outlaw had a standard spring set on 3, Meidjo was also set to 3 with a doubled-up standard spring, and Lynx was at the “factory” setting as determined by Chris and Collins. For the neophytes and grey-haired doubters, the low-tech toe yields the best lateral power transfer ever for a telemark system. Simple question I guess. Craig Dostie mentionned to me that it was the best fitting low tech he had seen on the market and he was right, It’s fairly easy to get it on. report. As with Rottefella’s Freeride in the early days there is a lack of field evidence on how well this works. The main goal was to get feedback on the tele bindings from B and E. Both confirmed that stepping in to the Outlaw is ridiculously easy. Members. Almost all AT bindings require turning the heel tower which is much more fiddley than simply clicking the claw in tour mode with your boot…looks pretty slick in the video! Like all NTN norm bindings it's available in two sizes, short and long. Only other issue is crack on the plastic release mech. I suggest you choose from the original TTS, the Lynx or the Meidjo. Meidjo… Learn how your comment data is processed. The spring on M2 does release and is adjustable; not guaranteed of course, but comforting to me. The activity adjustment bar is steel, so that’s bound to collect some too. Online. Was really sad to see the 3.0 already out, with the true step in. Step in is not my number one criteria to judge a binding. (Note: To get past the second side you need to wiggle a bit until it pulls through.) I would love to use my 2017 model Scarpa F1 Boots as they are my go to slippers. Accessibility Help subjective point view. 22 Designs Outlaw X Binding Part. MEIDJO 2.1 + SKI-BRAKES 2.1 : when ordering a Meidjo 2.1 binding and for technical reasons, please send us an email to with the reference of your order and the size of ski-brake 2.1 you want: 85, 95, 105, 120 or 130mm. The Meidjo 2.1 offers nearly as much forward flex as most 75 mm bindings and can accomodate all stances except skiers who want to ski with the knee glued to the ski. Maybe with a placebo pill I would be more perceptive. If you agree with me thus far, you have to be excited for what is to come for our sport. Your last sentence nails it Bobby. Minor icing issue in Trois valleys after a long day; I just carry a tool to poke ice out (all bindings ice in my experience, but M 2.1 very good, just keep them clean). No more Meidjo, only steel from 22Designs , Hiroki Ide, same sytuation like John M. Feit. Lynx is about as easy to step into as a 2-pin fiddler binding can be. The relative bending position of composite leaf-springs does affect the perception of power when initiating a turn, but once the heel is lifted more than, say seven degrees, the tension from the coil springs dominate and there is no discernable difference between any of the leaf bending positions. It's up to you to be the navigator. Time will tell but so far the 2.0 version sure looks close to perfect for me. Don't let a case of the Monday's get you down! Reply. For all things telemark ski-related. I don't mind kneeling down to engage a binding, but for some reason I really don't want to for transitions. Is the Meidjo perfect? Just like modern alpine touring bindings with pin-tech style systems, these bindings allow for a more efficient uphill touring experience. Some of the details may change by the time Lynx is produced by the thousands but Lynx confirms that the core components of a 2-pin tech toe and spring tension on the 2nd heel yield the best tele sensation I’ve ever felt in over 30 years of dipping the knee. They are exceptionally nice if you are on a ridge top and doing a ‘ski off’ transition, the ski is still attached to the you via the coiled leash and you can do all the fiddling you want without the concern of watching your ski leave the top without you!!! I just got new revised springs that’s suppose to fix the claw grab issues from 22 and can’t wait to test them. share. This TTS style binding looks great, but wondering if my F1’s are compatible right off with no mods? There’s also Skeats in a pinch. The Meidjo was designed to ski more like a duckbill in this regard, giving a better BOF sensation with pretty significant initial heel off the top plate pulldown. 22 Design’s Lynx. The kit comes with several of 2 sizes of breakable fuse links. So old, damaged folk like me would appreciate some form of (not guaranteed) release on the exciting looking Lynx! The Lynx uses composite flex plates and compression springs to deliver tele tension like a leaf spring, only lighter. For the best touring efficiency, a 2-pin toe is the way to go. This alone makes telemark able to keep up with the alpine tourers. But I am not running the brakes on my Meidjos this season preferring leashes which I have used for 20+ years. If we’re really lucky, it will have the option to switch between a low and high wire. Hoping your view looks something like this today wherever you are ✌, Ty Dayberry showing the Utah crew his take on the words "Life Elevated" , "The Greatest adventure is what lies ahead", "Time flies. Stiffness, fit, durability, etc. I can say it does work in a simple test of kicking a boot out at the heel. But if only looking at this feature, Meidjo 3.0 is really good (tried without the brakes). Log In Finding aggressive 75mm boots seems to get harder every year, and I think I am going to make the change to NTN this season cause I figure I will have to at some point. I have the 2.1, just got them in March. I not used VOILE – so I have no opinion. r/telemark. Releasabilty is important to me off piste (done both ACLs over the years!). Hold your horses cowboy! Please be aware that online purchases of equipment shown on this site through affiliate retailers will also help support this site by earning a commission for EYT. save. Due to the low profile the standard heel posts for Axl and Outlaw are so tall they prevent the boot from dropping low enough for the claw to slip over the second heel. Probably Dynafit as well. Make each turn count as if it were your last ✊. But i do not trust published weight figures and we do not have these for the production version yet. With practice anyone can get in as easy as I did but newbies to the 2-pin realm would appreciate some form of visual alignment. The rule of Winter ’15 season has been to act fast when fresh snow arrives, otherwise there won’t be much left. There will probably also be a stiffy spring option. 22 Designs Lynx Binding Part. So that hole pattern means it may be usable on Telebry release plates for 360 degree DIN release. “Grey hair” comment: this is not the “ first composite flex plate” tele binding. What I don’t love is the fact I have ripped two separate bindings out of two different skis, ruining both (Dynafit Huascarán and Atomic Backland 85). Matt October 4, 2019 - 1:14 pm. Johan says: December 6, 2019 at 11:23 am. 22 Designs plans to produce a limited quantity of 500, available November 2018. Telemark bindings are designed for the soul-turner, that smooth operator who 'takes a knee' for the cause. Hey everybody! Meidjo 2.0 – 2 damage in the field. (*Thirteen*. Eventually I plan on getting a pair of Lynx or meidjo for the backcountry but was curious to hear everyone's take about the the similarities and differences between these two boots. and three pins they all get skied. Same situation like John M. Feit Never had the Rottefella release, even when I hit an unseen baby tree). Coming out of the turn the Meidjo is reactive, especially with the additional springs. Hope everyone's season has been stellar. Also, another cool thing about this binding is that it looks like the structure comprising of the TTS pins is burlier than the Meidjo. 119 likes. Had several wipeouts (boarders off piste!!!). All 75mm classic duckbill bindings. Im Laufe von nunmehr fünf Jahrzehnten änderten sich mehrfach die Eigentumsverhältnisse an dem Unternehmen, Lynx blieb jedoch stets im englischen Süd… I haven't looked at them in a couple of years, but can the new Meidjo be switched between modes with a pole? 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